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Re: New patch discussion post October 2017

Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:21 pm

Cheerios7204 wrote:
The changes still don't make sense, how about they decrease the area where you can place summoned units? Still make them placeable but at a more limited distance from the heroes.


I second this. Smaller summoning area of effect, or as I read earlier, summoning directly on the hero's position.

Having them spawn at the back of the battlefield is quite useless, unless you increase the time the summons are deployed as well as increasing their movement speed.

In general, people have been clearing the void Mirror using the summoning abilities and you would essentially have to revamp the challenges in the void as well if you are going to nerf the summons.

and +1 "Jacques OP" like everyone else said.
 
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Re: New patch discussion post October 2017

Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:12 pm

Sad that they're making everyone who had Elena exchange her for Jacques or get destroied for the rest of server life. Nice balance, welcome to Art of Jacques
 
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Re: New patch discussion post October 2017

Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:57 pm

Hiems wrote:
Sad that they're making everyone who had Elena exchange her for Jacques or get destroied for the rest of server life. Nice balance, welcome to Art of Jacques


How does one exchange her for Jacques?
 
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Re: New patch discussion post October 2017

Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:55 am

katxia wrote:
Hiems wrote:
Sad that they're making everyone who had Elena exchange her for Jacques or get destroied for the rest of server life. Nice balance, welcome to Art of Jacques


How does one exchange her for Jacques?


You will be able to exchange Elena for any of the other shop-exclusive heroes (obviously Jacques). Along with that, you will be able to reset her, Avalon and Virion to level 1 receive all stat/skill cards and xp that they had as cards to spend in any hero you wish (obviously Jacques).
 
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Re: New patch discussion post October 2017

Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:03 am

But can u really drop élana? She has magic resist and buffs cavalry which are essential as well.
 
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Re: New patch discussion post October 2017

Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:41 am

Vriana wrote:
But can u really drop élana? She has magic resist and buffs cavalry which are essential as well.


Yea the buff to cavalry is good, but the point is that there's no counterplay to Jacques anymore. The small window of chance we had before to fight him was to summon on his face and hope that the summons could moral boost on him, and it doesn't exist anymore.
 
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Re: New patch discussion post October 2017

Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:34 am

Uh, Elena lets your cavalry survive for half a second longer against Jacques, while Jacques will singlehandledly kill the entire enemy army...

Essentially, unless they nerf him, they have just nerfed every viable strategy against him - the best strategy is to put every thing - every card, stat, potion, alchemy stone, everything into Jacques. Because the only thing that matters is whose Jacques is stronger.
 
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Re: New patch discussion post October 2017

Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:53 am

It sounds quite reasonable for the developers to nerf the summoning skills of Avalon, Virion and Elena, However, I think the way they do it is not suitable, fair or persuadable.

First, they are worried that some players only use the summoned troops into the back line, the weakest line of their opponents. However, preventing the players to choose the spawning location of the summoned units will make the fight less strategic (less work of the brain), but all about physical strength when two sides just crashed into each other, using all the devastating skills and the fight ends with the winning side is the one having more powerful and higher-level troops or heros. How boring! Moreover, doing so will make the summoning skill so useless and passive that no one will ever use it again. Then another question is that they created the skill for what when no one wants to use it?
I think the better solution is that instead of completely stopping the players from choosing the summoning location, they can prevent the players to summon only at the enemies' back line. Or other words, players can choose any where in their army's area to deploy the summoned units, not in the opponents' zone.

Second, they are worried that players only focus on developing the summoning skills without concentrating on building and upgrading their real army (and they want to reduce the numbers of summoned units). I can tell that the same situation happens to Jacques. While some players just focus on building him, the one-army hero, but the developers never touch him. That is really unfair. If you want to nerf the summoning skills, you should nerf Jacques, as well, AOC team! Or else just let it be.

Moreover, concentrating on just the summon skills will automatically result in less focus on other useful skills of the heroes. It means the players have to calculate carefully what to build to suit their play style when they have many useful options. Now that you want to declare death (yes, declare death) for the summon skills, players now only have some few choices and every one will build the same sets of skills for those heroes, which will make it even more boring.

In the final words, I hope they will re-consider it.
 
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Re: New patch discussion post October 2017

Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:16 am

Elia also has magic resist which u need against Rakan and lich because liche use magical creatures
 
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Re: New patch discussion post October 2017

Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:25 am

Vriana wrote:
Elia also has magic resist which u need against Rakan and lich because liche use magical creatures


It's defense against magic attack not magical creatures, only affect the damage from mummies and acolytes. From Rakan I don't know but don't think the turtle do magic damage

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