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Re: Thanks Lilith for destroying the game.

Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:47 am

Gmanju wrote:
Zi0iP wrote:
Gmanju wrote:
I've posted proof already in a previous threat about arena go find it there. I've been #1 in epic arena for like 2+ months and top 3 in regular arena for 3+ months as well as #1 on every hol, dmg record, ancient ect...


I have been top 3 in Epic Arena for 5 months(we let Arena top for the mates not being top in Epic Arena).
All we can proove with these infos is: 1) Ezio is not good for def arena; 2) on your server at least 18 on top 25 are not so good at tactic OR you are not at O+1/O+2 fusion


Top 3 and 1st is 2 different universes. 1st and being in 1st untouched for months is a 3rd universe. You are not even in my universes vicinity bro

I have been 1st in epic arena for like 4 months now. Still, what does that prove regarding the heroes being discussed?

Also, the meta varies slightly from server to server, there are many good heroes that can work and the current meta on any given server is largely based on what heroes the first players to reach 90 had upgraded (this does not apply to very old servers where everyone has everything of course). But there are some basic strategy rules of thumb, like Jasmine is not good for defense.
 
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Re: Thanks Lilith for destroying the game.

Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:07 pm

Gmanju wrote:
Zi0iP wrote:
Gmanju wrote:
I've posted proof already in a previous threat about arena go find it there. I've been #1 in epic arena for like 2+ months and top 3 in regular arena for 3+ months as well as #1 on every hol, dmg record, ancient ect...


I have been top 3 in Epic Arena for 5 months(we let Arena top for the mates not being top in Epic Arena).
All we can proove with these infos is: 1) Ezio is not good for def arena; 2) on your server at least 18 on top 25 are not so good at tactic OR you are not at O+1/O+2 fusion


Top 3 and 1st is 2 different universes. 1st and being in 1st untouched for months is a 3rd universe. You are not even in my universes vicinity bro


You're dodging all our questions.
I'll ask you straight and simple;
1. Can you show us the top 10 arena teams?
2. Can you show your team?
3. Can you show how to beat Zem?
4. Can you show the Zem teams?

If you can't provide anything, I'll just assume you're bad. We all will. In fact, we already think your entire server lacks tactical play. So prove us wrong.
 
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Re: Thanks Lilith for destroying the game.

Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:01 am

Guys, no personal attacks please. For the player that opened the topic I recommend you to create a topic on the player advice section asking for tips on beating Ezio and Dokras. :)
 
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Re: Thanks Lilith for destroying the game.

Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:01 pm

hengli wrote:
Guys, no personal attacks please. For the player that opened the topic I recommend you to create a topic on the player advice section asking for tips on beating Ezio and Dokras. :)


Really, personal insults to a dedicated player, paying customer I might add, is your way of treating your customer base? Well played, Hengli. I guess I will not be dumping another 100 euros on this game this month. Or maybe ever again? Still, well played.

If you would read my topic thoroughly you would understand: I don't need tips and advice to beat ezio nor dokras. The point is that this combo is only one in the game that can not be influenced by a player on a battlefield (since Dokras is not present) and often, yet not always, results in losing heroes who would never be lost in normal circumstances, or their loss is not impactful at all if we are speaking arena. This is a frustrating experience which, in my opinion, should not exist in this game. I play this game for fun and seven teams of ezio/dokras in a row in CoF is not fun - it's a dozen of stage resets to keep everyone alive. Perhaps instead of insults you should relay this info to the people that matter in your company. Or maybe you should not be handling PR at all?
 
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Re: Thanks Lilith for destroying the game.

Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:50 pm

assenko wrote:
hengli wrote:
Guys, no personal attacks please. For the player that opened the topic I recommend you to create a topic on the player advice section asking for tips on beating Ezio and Dokras. :)


Really, personal insults to a dedicated player, paying customer I might add, is your way of treating your customer base? Well played, Hengli. I guess I will not be dumping another 100 euros on this game this month. Or maybe ever again? Still, well played.

If you would read my topic thoroughly you would understand: I don't need tips and advice to beat ezio nor dokras. The point is that this combo is only one in the game that can not be influenced by a player on a battlefield (since Dokras is not present) and often, yet not always, results in losing heroes who would never be lost in normal circumstances, or their loss is not impactful at all if we are speaking arena. This is a frustrating experience which, in my opinion, should not exist in this game. I play this game for fun and seven teams of ezio/dokras in a row in CoF is not fun - it's a dozen of stage resets to keep everyone alive. Perhaps instead of insults you should relay this info to the people that matter in your company. Or maybe you should not be handling PR at all?


Really? You consider what he said a personal insult? I guess polite statements are personal insults these days. Although do I agree that he didn't really give a response to the topic.
 
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Re: Thanks Lilith for destroying the game.

Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:37 pm

assenko wrote:
hengli wrote:
Guys, no personal attacks please. For the player that opened the topic I recommend you to create a topic on the player advice section asking for tips on beating Ezio and Dokras. :)


Really, personal insults to a dedicated player, paying customer I might add, is your way of treating your customer base? Well played, Hengli. I guess I will not be dumping another 100 euros on this game this month. Or maybe ever again? Still, well played.

If you would read my topic thoroughly you would understand: I don't need tips and advice to beat ezio nor dokras. The point is that this combo is only one in the game that can not be influenced by a player on a battlefield (since Dokras is not present) and often, yet not always, results in losing heroes who would never be lost in normal circumstances, or their loss is not impactful at all if we are speaking arena. This is a frustrating experience which, in my opinion, should not exist in this game. I play this game for fun and seven teams of ezio/dokras in a row in CoF is not fun - it's a dozen of stage resets to keep everyone alive. Perhaps instead of insults you should relay this info to the people that matter in your company. Or maybe you should not be handling PR at all?


Wow. You're pathetic. There, that's an actual, personal insult. Because you are.

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Get good.
 
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Re: Thanks Lilith for destroying the game.

Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:26 pm

The only thing I can agree with is that Ezio is annoying in the crucible. Not overpowered nor hard to deal with, just annoying. And Dokras, for real?

About "losing heroes who would never be lost in normal circumstances" what the hell does this mean? The heroes on the other side are trying to kill your heroes, and you are trying to kill theirs, losing heroes *is* a normal circumstance if the heroes are balanced at all.
 
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Re: Thanks Lilith for destroying the game.

Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:11 am

Zentor wrote:
Gmanju wrote:
Zi0iP wrote:

I have been top 3 in Epic Arena for 5 months(we let Arena top for the mates not being top in Epic Arena).
All we can proove with these infos is: 1) Ezio is not good for def arena; 2) on your server at least 18 on top 25 are not so good at tactic OR you are not at O+1/O+2 fusion


Top 3 and 1st is 2 different universes. 1st and being in 1st untouched for months is a 3rd universe. You are not even in my universes vicinity bro


You're dodging all our questions.
I'll ask you straight and simple;
1. Can you show us the top 10 arena teams?
2. Can you show your team?
3. Can you show how to beat Zem?
4. Can you show the Zem teams?

If you can't provide anything, I'll just assume you're bad. We all will. In fact, we already think your entire server lacks tactical play. So prove us wrong.


Have fun

http://imgur.com/2tIG19l
http://imgur.com/lodUbFh
http://imgur.com/bxuQIJV
http://imgur.com/dIoBTs4
http://imgur.com/BAm6akj
http://imgur.com/XmsD5SX
http://imgur.com/EmqYJw3
http://imgur.com/ZtIETny
http://imgur.com/fB7ZPPg
http://imgur.com/YkekBQX
http://imgur.com/eGAliN3
http://imgur.com/6WOPRed
http://imgur.com/u45cBrk
http://imgur.com/s8H2SSG
http://imgur.com/TS4SqRD
http://imgur.com/rkc1bGu

And lol at that noob saying he was insulted. I feel insulted by how bad you are, ezio and dokras usually do 0 dmg in my cof runs l2p brah
 
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Re: Thanks Lilith for destroying the game.

Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:18 am

@Gmanju
1) none wants to see a "#1 untouched" ranked #10
2) sad to tell you but these images don't support any theory of yours.

Now, is it possible to keep a suggestion topic as a suggestion topic? If you want to privately discussions your abilities, go private with the interested and stop tagging me in off-topic contents, please.
I'm here to discuss about tactics, complain about Zem and try helping people as much as can.


PS about Zem: those screenshots prove that you(everyone) need Zem to beat Zem. That's not a "Zem counter-tactic", that's just "pick Zem or lose"
 
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Re: Thanks Lilith for destroying the game.

Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:29 am

assenko wrote:
hengli wrote:
Guys, no personal attacks please. For the player that opened the topic I recommend you to create a topic on the player advice section asking for tips on beating Ezio and Dokras. :)


Really, personal insults to a dedicated player, paying customer I might add, is your way of treating your customer base? Well played, Hengli. I guess I will not be dumping another 100 euros on this game this month. Or maybe ever again? Still, well played.

If you would read my topic thoroughly you would understand: I don't need tips and advice to beat ezio nor dokras. The point is that this combo is only one in the game that can not be influenced by a player on a battlefield (since Dokras is not present) and often, yet not always, results in losing heroes who would never be lost in normal circumstances, or their loss is not impactful at all if we are speaking arena. This is a frustrating experience which, in my opinion, should not exist in this game. I play this game for fun and seven teams of ezio/dokras in a row in CoF is not fun - it's a dozen of stage resets to keep everyone alive. Perhaps instead of insults you should relay this info to the people that matter in your company. Or maybe you should not be handling PR at all?

Asking you to join discussions about game strategy is a personal insult for you? I am sorry but I really didn't intend to offend you. Some players complain about Ezio, Zen, Ethera, Awakening Arcturus, Nightshade, Dokras, some used to complain about Jasmine too. What I am trying to say is that there are counters as you know for any hero in the game.

I am always very polite to any player here and pass all the feedback from the users in the forum to the team responsible for the updates. But teams from COF are teams used by real players from the game so you will face all kinds of setups available in the game. This is not something that can be changed or modified, sorry about that. Ezio and Dokras can be countered like any other hero, so I told you that you could create a discussion about this in the advice section. I mean, I know players that are level 96, have been playing the game since the first month we launched, and they join discusions about game strategy and even ask questions to others for advice, I don't think it's an offense to suggest you to do the same.

If you are facing the SAME team 7 times in a row this might be something I can ask them to look into as it sounds kind of strange to me. But there is a chance you are facing teams from various players that are using similar setups.

Zentor wrote:

Wow. You're pathetic. There, that's an actual, personal insult. Because you are.

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Get good.

Zentor, as I said. No personal attacks please.
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