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Re: Tier List & Buff Guide

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:29 pm
by Walksmc
Hi, group! I'm the original author of that spreadsheet. Hard data on this game is, well, hard to find -- even comparing team compositions across servers -- so a lot of that is admittedly my opinion mixed with looking at max stats and what I could find of general use. So: things are open to interpretation or could be wrong wholecloth.

Zi0iP, I'll be able to incorporate the feedback from this thread. :D

Re: Tier List & Buff Guide

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:26 am
by Polt
If want to see how good wraxius is in some raids look on YouTube there videos of chapters 12 and 14 raid bosses where he take over 1.5 mil damage alone. All other heroes do about 200k in battle. Those bosses he is best hero to use.

Re: Tier List & Buff Guide

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:49 am
by Walksmc
Polt wrote:
If want to see how good wraxius is in some raids look on YouTube there videos of chapters 12 and 14 raid bosses where he take over 1.5 mil damage alone. All other heroes do about 200k in battle. Those bosses he is best hero to use.


Wraxius is super hard to gauge. Sure, he can shine in one Hall of Legends fight (Vincent), but this is the larger symptom of him only being valuable if there is a skill to copy. In regular, non-boss raids? Eh. Sure, he does plenty of magic aoe, but needs a strong support system to keep him healthy (in my experience that is). He's also still outshone by physical team comps.

So, good hero, but not likely a meta staple due to his niche use.

Re: Tier List & Buff Guide

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:09 am
by Polt
If want info on heros you have not ranked can give you some don't have all 7 star but have all 90 orange.
-Crusher like said great early game but dies off about purple 2 since he has such low mdef and pdef growth even with purple skill all other tanks will pass his def stats.
-Tareth is not a tank at all she is single target dps and support. She has high life steal with really good single target damage killing almost anything she hits with ultimate while healing her to full cause of high life steal. But her hp and def are to low to tank.
-Havoc is like leah. His second ability turns his normal attack into magic damage that hits 3 targets over 80% of normal attack by maxed. His ultimate is strong single target that if kills something will increase his damage but if does not kill something will hurt him too.
-Kaneq is control mainly he stuns, slows, knockback, and freezes. Then he is damage. Damage is based on crit though so can be good or bad depending.
-Vespix witch you don't have is front line damage with control. But like ezio he gets no life steal at all till p4 so really hard to keep him alive until then.
-Magdor hero of month starting tomorrow was a amazing tank in Chinese version since his purple skill maxed gave him over 300 hp per sec regen. He had amazingly high hp, life steal, and pdef but low mdef. He a damage tank starts single targe. All attacks turn into hit all enemies when you use his ultimate and turn him into a dragon for 30 seconds. Also his mdef and hp jump up a insane amount when turns into dragon. His fire breath has dot with it and his shield bash/tail whip is a 6 second stun. Only problem most of us had with him in Chinese version was his soul shards where so hard to get was not worth using. Looks like world wide version is changing almost all his skills though. His ultimate now is exactly like riley power ticks down over time getting hit or hitting raises it so no longer 30 seconds can be shorter or longer depending. Also hearing they changed his purple making it a pdef buff no longer a heal. Also he has lot less life steal in are version so will be harder to keep alive then was in Chinese version.

Re: Tier List & Buff Guide

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:28 am
by InhaleExhale
Shovon Mutant wrote:
InhaleExhale wrote:
Zi0iP wrote:

I'm still too noob to judge Crusher but he's great when unlocks purple ability! He tanks a lot of damage and has decent support abilities...

tried out crusher in CoF just now, i have him 5* 90 LvL almost full enchant... but Stone alien has left us in the middle of the road )))) he is too slooooow, enemies just die before he can do something of his abilities. he is definitely not CoF hero))))

How do u like ur lvl 90 5* crusher.Is he adequete or does he need more stars to bloom worthily?


yes now Im farming his 6th star, so that he will have more stats. but I like him more than any other tank, i like his shield buff and defend stand when he recieves 50% of incoming damage. There is a feature when Ethera ults and Crusher ults - he jumped to back row in chronosphere and stands there after it. This is a feature when Crusher begin to fight with back row and stun them....
Yes he has less defence than other tanks, but personally I like his abillities! Now I use him in defending Arena team and he shows good perfomance since he can keep my other team survive with his shields...
I saw many times when Drago or Leon were alive, when others were down, but Crusher can make 50-50 chances to survive his own and keep my team - thats why i like him.
I hope you cathced my point of view))))

Re: Tier List & Buff Guide

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:51 pm
by Zi0iP
Walksmc wrote:
Hi, group! I'm the original author of that spreadsheet. Hard data on this game is, well, hard to find -- even comparing team compositions across servers -- so a lot of that is admittedly my opinion mixed with looking at max stats and what I could find of general use. So: things are open to interpretation or could be wrong wholecloth.

Zi0iP, I'll be able to incorporate the feedback from this thread. :D


perfect! :)

Re: Tier List & Buff Guide

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:18 am
by hengli
Very nice Walksmc, keep up the good work! :)

Re: Tier List & Buff Guide

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:25 pm
by Urion
While I respect the views of the creator, I'm not sure if they have endgame experience. The awakened heroes are ridiculously strong now. Elric is the best tank/control now, Namtar is a beast offtank/control. Sera is the best dps in game currently. Combine all 3 at 200 forge and watch Sera kill their entire party.
You can create a 5 man awakened team and win 90% of your matches =)

Re: Tier List & Buff Guide

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:44 pm
by Renzalun
what do you mean by endgame?
i didnt had any trouble/difficulties against awakened elric so far, with who or against who is he really strong?
yeah seraphine and namtar are really strong with the awakening and multi use now with prophecy pool and some hol.
im not in a server old as yours where every hero is most likely 7* but from what i saw a 5 awakend team isnt unbeatable and looses like other teams because of counters and most of them doesnt fit well togheter, they are not adding unbeatable boost to awakened heroes they just give less win chance to counters(which is normally high).

if there was more awakened hero(the easy 7* ones and not the paying ones) im sure your statement is completly true, but we need some time to get into it.

namtar and seraphine are getting more popular , i think its better to reavaluate them if they are awakened(if more people can give more specific strenghts for those).

Re: Tier List & Buff Guide

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:30 am
by Walksmc
Urion wrote:
While I respect the views of the creator, I'm not sure if they have endgame experience. The awakened heroes are ridiculously strong now. Elric is the best tank/control now, Namtar is a beast offtank/control. Sera is the best dps in game currently. Combine all 3 at 200 forge and watch Sera kill their entire party.
You can create a 5 man awakened team and win 90% of your matches =)


This is completely true! Also... kind of useless for players new to the game. Sure, character strength based upon awakening is great to evaluate and rejoice in when you get to that point, but the majority of players who need with their characters will be under level 90. I wrote this guide for them. :D

As the guide says: "Data is largely subjective — based upon common community opinion, hero use, and current game balance."

I could be more explicit about Awakened states (fun fact: this was created before Serafine and Ethera were awakened at all!), but you're right. I do not have endgame experience! Thusly, any opinions you want to share would be helpful.