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Re: When will we be able to see the awakening of cara

Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:57 am

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I'd like to see the awakening of Cara as well. Although, Ember, Gale and Leah would be interesting to see too :) They are long "forgotten" heroes that used to be really good in early levels.

Leah is still awesome as ever in the right teams! She was never good at early levels though, she has always been a late game hero. Gale is still ok too.
 
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Re: When will we be able to see the awakening of cara

Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:21 am

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wiro wrote:
I'd like to see the awakening of Cara as well. Although, Ember, Gale and Leah would be interesting to see too :) They are long "forgotten" heroes that used to be really good in early levels.

Leah is still awesome as ever in the right teams! She was never good at early levels though, she has always been a late game hero. Gale is still ok too.


Yeah, but if I know she is in the team I'm facing she is easier than ever to be countered. --> early levels as in 80-90

Gale is not ok in my opinion, the only reason I would use Gale would be of the silence, which there are better to choose from. But that's my opinion, the game is getting very broad in terms of combinations. I don't see myself using Gale as I did back in about 8 months ago or so.
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Re: When will we be able to see the awakening of cara

Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:47 am

wiro wrote:
KemosabeTBC wrote:
wiro wrote:
I'd like to see the awakening of Cara as well. Although, Ember, Gale and Leah would be interesting to see too :) They are long "forgotten" heroes that used to be really good in early levels.

Leah is still awesome as ever in the right teams! She was never good at early levels though, she has always been a late game hero. Gale is still ok too.


Yeah, but if I know she is in the team I'm facing she is easier than ever to be countered. --> early levels as in 80-90

Yes and no. She is definitely easier to counter than before but, she is not alone you have 4 other heroes. There are very strong AOE teams where even if you try to counter leah you will still be taking a lot of damage. If you're thinking arachna for example, that's not even close to countering a good leah team, arachna just dies super fast no matter in which position she is on the battlefield. You will need more counters, jasmine is a good counter but, you will need even more counters otherwise jasmine will die before she can use the ult.
 
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Re: When will we be able to see the awakening of cara

Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:20 pm

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wiro wrote:
KemosabeTBC wrote:
Leah is still awesome as ever in the right teams! She was never good at early levels though, she has always been a late game hero. Gale is still ok too.


Yeah, but if I know she is in the team I'm facing she is easier than ever to be countered. --> early levels as in 80-90

Yes and no. She is definitely easier to counter than before but, she is not alone you have 4 other heroes. There are very strong AOE teams where even if you try to counter leah you will still be taking a lot of damage. If you're thinking arachna for example, that's not even close to countering a good leah team, arachna just dies super fast no matter in which position she is on the battlefield. You will need more counters, jasmine is a good counter but, you will need even more counters otherwise jasmine will die before she can use the ult.


If leah is on a team chances are it's mostly a physical dmg team. Gus, havoc, and taurus will 3 man just about any all physical teams leah or not.
 
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Re: When will we be able to see the awakening of cara

Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:38 pm

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KemosabeTBC wrote:
wiro wrote:

Yeah, but if I know she is in the team I'm facing she is easier than ever to be countered. --> early levels as in 80-90

Yes and no. She is definitely easier to counter than before but, she is not alone you have 4 other heroes. There are very strong AOE teams where even if you try to counter leah you will still be taking a lot of damage. If you're thinking arachna for example, that's not even close to countering a good leah team, arachna just dies super fast no matter in which position she is on the battlefield. You will need more counters, jasmine is a good counter but, you will need even more counters otherwise jasmine will die before she can use the ult.


If leah is on a team chances are it's mostly a physical dmg team. Gus, havoc, and taurus will 3 man just about any all physical teams leah or not.

Those 3? I disagree, they will not disable a good physical team with tanya. And don't forget that physical AOE teams will also have taurus.
 
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Re: When will we be able to see the awakening of cara

Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:50 pm

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Gmanju wrote:
KemosabeTBC wrote:
Yes and no. She is definitely easier to counter than before but, she is not alone you have 4 other heroes. There are very strong AOE teams where even if you try to counter leah you will still be taking a lot of damage. If you're thinking arachna for example, that's not even close to countering a good leah team, arachna just dies super fast no matter in which position she is on the battlefield. You will need more counters, jasmine is a good counter but, you will need even more counters otherwise jasmine will die before she can use the ult.


If leah is on a team chances are it's mostly a physical dmg team. Gus, havoc, and taurus will 3 man just about any all physical teams leah or not.

Those 3? I disagree, they will not disable a good physical team with tanya. And don't forget that physical AOE teams will also have taurus.


Uhhh actually they would. Just adding tholin or lumos to this set up will counter tanya or any other back line divers. Match would go this way, lumos interupts any divers, taurus stuns team with hammer, immediately after the stun wears off havoc roots and disarms all physical dmg heroes, taurus is spinning on all the bunched up and cced heroes while they are also taking more aoe dmg from havoc and lumos dot or tholin boomerang. When the disarm/root wears off any squishy hero such as leah, garick, bs ect... are dead before doing anything else aside from 1 auto attack if that. Match ends in total obliteration, do this everyday.
 
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Re: When will we be able to see the awakening of cara

Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:15 pm

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KemosabeTBC wrote:
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If leah is on a team chances are it's mostly a physical dmg team. Gus, havoc, and taurus will 3 man just about any all physical teams leah or not.

Those 3? I disagree, they will not disable a good physical team with tanya. And don't forget that physical AOE teams will also have taurus.


Uhhh actually they would. Just adding tholin or lumos to this set up will counter tanya or any other back line divers. Match would go this way, lumos interupts any divers, taurus stuns team with hammer, immediately after the stun wears off havoc roots and disarms all physical dmg heroes, taurus is spinning on all the bunched up and cced heroes while they are also taking more aoe dmg from havoc and lumos dot or tholin boomerang. When the disarm/root wears off any squishy hero such as leah, garick, bs ect... are dead before doing anything else aside from 1 auto attack if that. Match ends in total obliteration, do this everyday.

Me too, and no one is talking about heroes like garrick, he is not used in these kind of teams. Don't forget your team is not the only one bring disruption like taurus, mine does too, and you will not kill tanya before she jumps, that is guaranteed. Leah is probably not a good hero to use against team, but then again she will still do some damage after tanya jumps, she will not last much longer because of taurus though. But garrick/bloodspear? Yeah no way, that's not a strong physical team :) Bloodspear in arena is completely retarded and although garrick works against some teams there are too many heroes in the current meta countering him.
 
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Re: When will we be able to see the awakening of cara

Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:55 pm

If tareth dies what makes you think tanya wont? Anyhow it's not something I care to prove just some screenshots.

http://imgur.com/rBlsc30
http://imgur.com/iIFPTV7
http://imgur.com/mS5Tpbq
http://imgur.com/5kTvA2R
http://imgur.com/783MY5a
http://imgur.com/xfpDHzW
 
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Re: When will we be able to see the awakening of cara

Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:00 am

Gmanju wrote:
If tareth dies what makes you think tanya wont? Anyhow it's not something I care to prove just some screenshots.

http://imgur.com/rBlsc30
http://imgur.com/iIFPTV7
http://imgur.com/mS5Tpbq
http://imgur.com/5kTvA2R
http://imgur.com/783MY5a
http://imgur.com/xfpDHzW

Because it depends on the other heroes you use as well, you're not the only one bringing disruption, stuns, etc. Also tbh Tanya can live through more damage than Tareth.

Either way these types of teams are easy to beat on defense. Normal defense arena is tricky, there is always counters for the heroes you chose. Yes, you can counter the heroes I put in my team, but then again if you put your heroes on defense I can counter them too... These teams are not good for defense.

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