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Worst event ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:15 pm
by assenko
After one of the best patches ever (the village one, surprisingly bug free, and a new cool feature to boot), Lilith dishes our probably the worst event ever present in this game - the thanksgiving treasure cave plunder failure. Guys, maybe before pushing a feature to event level consider fixing it to the playable state, thank you very much. Because as of right now treasure caves are completely broken and pointless.

Where do I begin. First, everyone knows that the matchmaking in caves is horrible, as a level 94 I don't ever find a cave with less that level 97 defenders. And it is common knowledge that ever since a player gets to level 85+ he constantly gets matched against way stronger team (in that 85 player example, you only get level 90+ opponents, with awakenings and such). This is pure cancer, failed programming at it's finest, and is absolutely unacceptable.

Second, why in the name of all that is holy enemy teams retain the energy for their ultimates from previous fights, even those you had no part in?! What in the actual f***?!!! Again, it is common knowledge, that sometimes as you enter a cave enemy team immediately goes off with all of the ultimates obviously resulting in a team wipe, because some scrub from other server attacked this exact team earlier, god knows when, maybe few hour prior, so you go again, and what do you know - enemy got full or almost full energy since they just killed your team. Whooptie-do , balance! Is it so hard to program fights so that everyone starts with zero energy every time? Same goes for Crucible of Fire, as I delve into off-topic for a second, why the f***, the actual f***, CoF enemy teams retain their energy? Is this Ezio/Dokras cancer is not enough of a frustration, do we need to be even more frustrated? Thank you very much, this is not what I paid for.

Third, VIP players rejoice - we have auto-plunder feature!!!1 Well, allow me to shatter your dreams of easy turkey farming. I had numerous occasions when auto-plunder nets 0 (zero, ZERO. let me reiterate: Z is for Ztupid, E is for Enormous, R is for Retarded, O is for ohshit - ZERO) gold or whatever the reward you are choosing, because, what do you know - all of your teams failed their auto-fights, fights that you have absolutely no control of, for the love of god. Say good bye to your 60k gold that you paid to plunder, which in the normal game would mean that it should bring guaranteed rewards, but here it does not. Paying 60000 gold for nothing is called a scam. Is Lilith a scammer? Seems to me that it is.

So all in all, I'm not even sure that I'll be able to get needed amount of turkey to complete the event because of all this bullshit, meaning I get screwed over on the completing the set of golden items needed for some reason at the end of the year event (also, could you reveal beforehand what the rewards are going to be? is this so hard really to give the information of all three scheduled events to players so we know if we should even bother with all of this?). And no, f*** no, I'm not doing manual plundering ever, not with this matchmaking, i'll stick to auto, how ever horrible it may be. Thank you very much.

Also this is probably the last straw: this is actually the closest when I've gotten ever to quitting the game, not because of this particular event, but because how bad last few months has been, and it's getting even worse by the minute. Worthless events, unplayable features, non-existent feedback, zero effort to fix what is broken (it took you two weeks since release to actually fix Lars's stun?! why?! with normal company policies something like this would be fixed within the hours), CoF is broken, arena is boring and unrewarding, guild wars, raids, farming, crafting, hero balance, itemization on heroes balance, ViP benefits and rewards, customer support, all of this is in desperate need of rework, rebalance or enormous amounts of fixing. But instead we get a new hero every two weeks to pay our money for. You know what, no thanks you, I'll pass. Here is a suggestion, maybe put out 1 new hero every month, or even two months, and instead do some actual useful work?

Before I succumb to even bigger rant, at least fix the caves problem, fix the energy bullshit, fix matchmaking, make auto-plunder fail-free. One little step at a time, maybe we will make this game great again someday?

Re: Worst event ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:39 pm
by Namorat
I have no idea what this problem with the caves is... I almost exclusively get enemies with higher Levels and score, but that doesn't tell you anything, I still win. Same with CoF. Yes, every now and then I lose a hero, but that's what the other 67 heroes are for... But perhaps that is only my experience.

Still, those Features are way better than the new heroes' academy in my eyes.

Re: Worst event ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:50 pm
by ashOck
Wow, it sounds like you should quit. Don't even think too much about it since you are obviously disliking so much of the game to rant and rave as you did.

My take is that you are not a very strong player. You get resets in the cave if the opponent is not to your liking (and 2000 gold is a drop in the bucket it is so easy to come by, so save the argument). Recently there is great activity in the cave, so you get a lot of power rolls from others attacking you. And if you are battling teams that ult on you immediately, you are making poor decisions in not searching again.

More evidence of your poor gameplay? The CoF retention of energy is the biggest advantage the players have to complete all the levels. You should NOT be losing any levels until the very end. So YOU get to charge up all your ults for the more difficult teams to get past them. And you are given infinite restarts if the battle does not go the way you want.

So read your own post again, realize how unhappy you are at being bad at this game and find something that you enjoy more.

Re: Worst event ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:11 pm
by assenko
ashOck wrote:
blah blah, bullshit, followed by more bullshit..


My take is that you should stfu, since you clearly don't get what the problem is. Your insight is meaningless, you don't understand the game, you don't see clear flaws in need of fixing, basically you are a noob. So get back to whatever hole you popped up out, before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

Re: Worst event ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:45 pm
by ashOck
assenko wrote:
ashOck wrote:
blah blah, bullshit, followed by more bullshit..


My take is that you should stfu, since you clearly don't get what the problem is. Your insight is meaningless, you don't understand the game, you don't see clear flaws in need of fixing, basically you are a noob. So get back to whatever hole you popped up out, before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.


I understand the problem clearly: You are not successful in the Treasure Caves, you fail in CoF, and you have troubles with many of the features of the game. You mention that you are thinking of quitting and I agree that that would be a good idea.

Re: Worst event ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:19 pm
by Arclight
assenko wrote:
Treasure cave matchmaking

Even though the teamlevel is different, the matchmaking is done with the teamrating. So stop looking at the first and consider the latter.

assenko wrote:
Treasure cave and Cof - precharged energy

TC) This is intentionally. Has nothing to do with previous fights. If your cave get's the first attack after you sent the team out, you will have precharged heroes as well. It's a simple mechanic to give the defender a chance to protect their treasures.
CoF) Precharged energy is raising every stage. This and nothing else. CoF shouldn't be a cakewalk at first and you have to do something to beat it up to the last stage.

assenko wrote:
Auto-plunder

It is an easy turkey farming. If your teams lose every fight you should reconsider your teams. Probably the synergy between the heroes is bad. Despite that your own heroes will have random precharged amounts of energy (see Treasure Cave, Rule 15) as well, this is to counteract the precharged enemies and the fact you have no control over the fight.

assenko wrote:
So all in all, I'm not even sure that I'll be able to get needed amount of turkey to complete the event because of all this bullshit, meaning I get screwed over on the completing the set of golden items needed for some reason at the end of the year event (also, could you reveal beforehand what the rewards are going to be? is this so hard really to give the information of all three scheduled events to players so we know if we should even bother with all of this?). And no, f*** no, I'm not doing manual plundering ever, not with this matchmaking, i'll stick to auto, how ever horrible it may be. Thank you very much.

If you refuse to do a few manual plunders per day, you can't blame anyone if you don't get 50 Turkeys within five days. One set of 30 bread can net you 15 Turkeys while 10 per day are necessary in theory.

assenko wrote:
Also this is probably the last straw: this is actually the closest when I've gotten ever to quitting the game, not because of this particular event, but because how bad last few months has been, and it's getting even worse by the minute. Worthless events, unplayable features, non-existent feedback, zero effort to fix what is broken (it took you two weeks since release to actually fix Lars's stun?! why?! with normal company policies something like this would be fixed within the hours), CoF is broken, arena is boring and unrewarding, guild wars, raids, farming, crafting, hero balance, itemization on heroes balance, ViP benefits and rewards, customer support, all of this is in desperate need of rework, rebalance or enormous amounts of fixing. But instead we get a new hero every two weeks to pay our money for. You know what, no thanks you, I'll pass. Here is a suggestion, maybe put out 1 new hero every month, or even two months, and instead do some actual useful work?

If everything is so unbelievable bad, why are you still playing? And if you tell facts, tell them correctly. You've opened a post about Lars' stun on November 14th, it got resolved on 23rd. That's nine days, not two weeks. And Henry said it will be fixed with the next big update.

Re: Worst event ever?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:28 am
by Lockhart
I don't really see what the big complaint is about treasure caves. >.> It's usually the opponents that are higher level and look tough that I whoop in one try. This event is a hell of a lot better than the halloween arena debacle that was just high rankers dropping down on purpose and then destroying everyone easily on a slow climb back up just to farm pumpkins. I'm already well on my way to the frame and turkey and I haven't done anything that I don't normally do.

Re: Worst event ever?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:31 am
by Namorat
Lockhart wrote:
I don't really see what the big complaint is about treasure caves. >.> It's usually the opponents that are higher level and look tough that I whoop in one try. This event is a hell of a lot better than the halloween arena debacle that was just high rankers dropping down on purpose and then destroying everyone easily on a slow climb back up just to farm pumpkins. I'm already well on my way to the frame and turkey and I haven't done anything that I don't normally do.


I agree. Last Event wasn't fun for this reason alone. But now it's easy and enjoyable. I am personally halfway through with it. Well, almost at least ^^

Re: Worst event ever?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:08 am
by Gmanju
Well it's true that their thanksgiving event is actually worse then regular events since it essentially provides literally no in game benefit aside from cosmetics which most players don't care. Their soul stone on purchase event is 25% worse then a regular Friday purchase event Lof

However seems like you just don't know how to properly build teams since I only use auto plundering now and get 20 to 30 diamonds on average sometimes as many as 40 with lucky dtop rolls.

Cof is honestly a joke past lvl 90 since I win every fight in 20 seconds or less at times with the enemy not being able to do any dmg at all even awakened ezio and dokras don't get a single attack me. I mean finishing 2 cof clear in under 10 minutes on auto play for 80% of the stages if hardly challenging.

Re: Worst event ever?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:00 am
by hengli
Just to complete what was said by other players:

1 - Cave matching is based on team rating and this was improved many updates ago because players used to match much stronger enemies in the caves. Team level doesn't mean anything.

2 - We increased the defense bread collection limit to 50 per day, activity in the caves is much higher than before and if you still don`t like to play it you can use as you stated the "auto plunder" function. For the amount of breads a normal player can get, the requirements for the event are not high as stated by other players.

3 - I am not going to reveal the prizes for when you collect the three golden items or this would totally take out the fun of this events. What I can guarantee is that it's a very nice prize, to join or not the events is your choice.

assenko wrote:
ashOck wrote:
blah blah, bullshit, followed by more bullshit..


My take is that you should stfu, since you clearly don't get what the problem is. Your insight is meaningless, you don't understand the game, you don't see clear flaws in need of fixing, basically you are a noob. So get back to whatever hole you popped up out, before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

My take in other hand is that you should respect other users from this forum if you want to be part of it. Personal attacks are not going to be accepted here, if you can't accept other players disagreeing on your opinions I don't see what's the point of sharing them.

Next personal attack and you will get a warning.

Thanks